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When They Turned Against LE SSERAFIM: A Deep Dive Into The Hate Train
chapters:
00:00 - INTRO
02:02 - The Fearless Set Up & Plagiarism
09:38 - The Aesthetic Of Rebellion & Why They Attacked YunJin
15:37 - My Unpopular Opinion On The Encore Disaster
21:46 - The Unfair Hate Train
24:46 - The Redemption Arc
27:23 - Outro
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Відео

The Entire Intense Story of LOONA: The Fight For Debut | Part 1
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Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 05:37 - A Hellhole Named Polaris 12:20 - Jaden Meets Polaris 30:33 - Jeon HeeJin 45:36 - Kim HyunJin 57:45 - Jo HaSeul 01:04:28 - Im YeoJin 01:12:01 - LOONA 1/3 01:27:22 - ViVi 01:37:48 - Kim Lip 01:50:13 - Jeong JinSoul 01:58:06 - Woomanna 02:15:34 - Choerry 02:26:00 - Odd Eye Circle 02:42:00 - MixNine 02:55:12 - Yves 03:00:57 - Chuu 03:11:04 - Go Won 03:22:38 - Olivia ...
Dream Academy Vs. A2K: Was I Right All Along?
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time to revisit my early predictions and all the complications leading up to and after korea's new global girl groups pushed for american success. thanks for watching heheheh Time stamps 0:00 - kpop's new american focus 4:19 - why the public kinda doesn't care 10:30 - JYP recycle & reuse without thought 17:36 - HYBE might be in for a nightmare 31:15 - who will outsell? 34:51 - outro
is k-pop close to it's death?
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time to get dramatic and talk about the possibility of the next 5th gen globalised groups (sorry if the audio is a bit off, i tried to fix it but this was the best i could do!) time stamps: 00:00 - intro 03:49 - the strange marketing of xg 07:41 - jyp's american dream 12:06 - hybe's american successors? 13:57 - sm's american bluff
the sm entertainment problem
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talking about sm's new marketing??? timestamps: 00:00 - intro 00:28 - support sm or else. 03:01 - the unpopular avengers 08:56 - living a legacy 12:06 - it's all falling apart
but k-pop idols aren't singers anymore ... they're influencers (??)
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chapters: 00:00 - intro 01:08 - to be an idol you must be approachable 02:51 - the rise of influencing individually while being in the group 04:54 - aesthetic is now everything. 10:17 - a performance on paper 12:03 - this is the future
the victims of k-pop's 'glass cliff' phenomenon
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a interpretation of the theory of the glass cliff applied to girl groups (i forgot) time stamps: 00:00 - what is the glass cliff? 05:29 - red velvet 11:05 - a little bit of aespa 11:56 - blackpink 16:08 - baby monster 17:14 - kep1er 18:58 - sonamoo 20:06 - lightsum 21:55 - the end.
the never-ending broken NCT system
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a deep dive into the system of new culture technology and how hard lee soo man is trying to make it happen despite how much backlash it gets. chapters: 00:00 - intro 00:54 - what was the point of nct? 03:25 - setting the stage 7:35 - the pitfalls of nct's system 16:18 - lost in translation instrumental ua-cam.com/video/JOR0rb4oSDg/v-deo.html
the unusual state of kep1er
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breaking down how mnet's attempt at bringing back the era of the survival show kinda... failed a little bit instrumental used: ua-cam.com/video/QrjEGLT58NI/v-deo.html
female idols fighting against unfair standards
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i'm back with a deep dive into the issues that female idols experience in the k-pop industry. instrumentals used: ua-cam.com/video/VZtExGyQ2a0/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/LD2e2o7cLdM/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/MwQR6o1hU1g/v-deo.html sources: gooyong kim's study - www.researchgate.net/publication/327854255_K-pop_Female_Idols_as_Cultural_Genre_of_Patriarchal_Neoliberalism_A_Gendered_Nature_of_De...
the most hated in k-pop: amber liu
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another disclaimer: this video isn't created to excuse any of the problematic things amber has done over the years, it is only a look into how she became one of the most hated in k-pop. thanks for watching!!!
how k-pop ended the reign of the disney star
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this is a little deep dive into the way k-pop picked up from where disney left off in the 2010's and now the 2020's.
twice and those who wanted to be them
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a nostalgic look back on the era in which every girl group had no choice but to be inspired by twice in order to keep their relevance ... iconic
the best of girl group bsides
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redslayvet ranked
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we love you yeri

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @loonathewhored
    @loonathewhored 9 годин тому

    there’s NO way this video came out 5 months ago, it feels like i was watching it like yesterday..

  • @Virtualangelheejin
    @Virtualangelheejin 11 годин тому

    Part 2 when??? Please come back

  • @Virtualangelheejin
    @Virtualangelheejin 11 годин тому

    I'm waiting for part 2

  • @AyoGG-od4pp
    @AyoGG-od4pp День тому

    This aged so badly. We have the National Embarrassment group y'all!!!

  • @woahitsfranco5286
    @woahitsfranco5286 2 дні тому

    part 2 please i beg i pray

  • @Camila-eb4lb
    @Camila-eb4lb 2 дні тому

    the sad thing is: bgs fangirls ride on this fantasy that the members they adore are not sexist, when the truth, statisticly speaking, is that they probably are. also, bg fanservice is so strong and intense (MUCH more than ggs) that creating this parasocial relationship with fans actually benefits them when it comes to situations like these.

  • @quadling3521
    @quadling3521 4 дні тому

    Oh man, “depending on how the Coachella performance goes” is so ominous now… Wild to remember that only months ago LSFM’s hate train was just over encores and had nothing to do with NewJeans or cults.

  • @ajotinha1655
    @ajotinha1655 4 дні тому

    please part 2 !!

  • @KhadaJhin04
    @KhadaJhin04 6 днів тому

    From the perspective of someone who doesn't like the concept of Le sserafim, I can cite how pretentious their whole faux female power thing sounds to me, it's a lot of talk without being backed up, kinda like movies when they're just a bunch of dialogues that overexplain, a classic show don't tell, well, even to me it came as a surprise that they couldn't sing, after villainizing a 16 year old to generate victim points for the rest of the group and tug on people's heart strings, they dare to deliver such a subpar frankly shocking performance, and instead of shutting up and improving in the studio, Sakura comes out and says, they did their best, your best worth thousands of dollars in tickets is a drunk karaoke night, I understand the hate, don't fully justify it, but it's a harsh wake up call to the girls that they need to get it together and vocally train, and for other idols as a cautionary tale, I am tired of Mediocrity being covered by pretty privilege. On that note, every group should have a standout member and one struggling member who tries to catch up, it's a treat seeing them improve and gain confidence, although the hate can really damage a person, but some idols have took it on the chin and did their best, which shows.

  • @pigeoncatangel
    @pigeoncatangel 7 днів тому

    Regarding Starbucks, 1. It isn't even on the official BDS movement's list of companies to boycott 2. It hasn't had stores in Isr*el for 20 years. They only had about six stores which lasted from 2001 to 2003 3. Howard Schultz, who invests in apartheid cybersecurity, is technically no longer affiliated with Starbucks as he stepped down form his CEO position With these in mind, I would say Starbucks should be a lesser worry for the concerned consumers who should instead target other companies way more consistently, especially when taking into consideration how easy it is to find alternatives for it 🤗

  • @Cynalittle
    @Cynalittle 7 днів тому

    2 months in hate train is still ongoing but at least the de@th threats and sexu@l @ssult has reduced because of company suing but my2 cents remain, they can’t sing to save their lives amazing performers though, I always wondered why yunjin always sounds worse than chaewon live but is considered the best singer of the group, they went from fearless concept to trending concept, I wish them luck though

  • @AnnaleaOfficial
    @AnnaleaOfficial 10 днів тому

    I'm not really a 'k pop' fan (the whole industry gives me the ick) but I've loved LE SSERAFIM from their first EP. They're the only idol group I listen to and I'm not really clued up on any controversy.... I've literally never heard of any plagiarism drama. But a few days ago I started to get recommended about them being problematic and bad vocalists and I'm shocked!! I thought everyone loved Yunjin in particular???

  • @lizelfving4084
    @lizelfving4084 11 днів тому

    You forgot, they are monetized the idols vacation streaming on youtube, paid calls to the idols, fan meet, merch with the idols name, light sticks, custom items.. and so on..

  • @Elijah_177
    @Elijah_177 11 днів тому

    part 2 please love

  • @nem_99
    @nem_99 11 днів тому

    We need the next part, please!

  • @IchiSwagger
    @IchiSwagger 12 днів тому

    I have waited forever for someone to do this!! Thank you for all your hard work!!

  • @fullbin1162
    @fullbin1162 13 днів тому

    the last segment had such insane kpop lore that ive never heard of before, which was CRAZY to hear as a kpop fan for 7 years now im suprised i didnt know about JUST how many idols attended hanlim. i knew it was a thing but when you listed all of them out.... also i DEFINITELY think 8D and BBC are connected in some way. idk how the fuck they are but especially with onlyoneof moving to 8D from BBC i wouldnt be suprised if the same thing happened with the suspected loonation trainees

  • @djlovesmusic
    @djlovesmusic 13 днів тому

    Insightful assessment. Look at now…RV with less than 3 week promotion of new EP.

  • @carlpacheco2058
    @carlpacheco2058 14 днів тому

    It's deluded and incredibly stupid of you to think that by boycotting Starbucks you are doing anything other than supporting the terrorist organization Hamas which effectively is the government of Palestine elected by 90% of Palestinians. You are absolutely divorced from reality if you don't think they would rape you and torture you just as they did to Israeli women.

  • @schlend4
    @schlend4 15 днів тому

    19:35 same goes for illits yunah. instead of casting her into a group whose concept fits her, they instead try to shape her into a cutesy type. in my opinion hype should take the blame for most of the constructive critiques that were given. as for the uncalled for hate, I condemn that.

  • @DuckDuckkill
    @DuckDuckkill 15 днів тому

    8:29 what group is that?

  • @Liquid_silver88
    @Liquid_silver88 16 днів тому

    This video aged like min lmilk

    • @nnnn-sc2im
      @nnnn-sc2im 12 днів тому

      not really it’s a pretty accurate recap on how people stopped liking lesserafim

    • @Liquid_silver88
      @Liquid_silver88 12 днів тому

      @@nnnn-sc2im I'm talking about how op said that their scandal will blow over . And it literally got so much worse for the group

    • @nnnn-sc2im
      @nnnn-sc2im 11 днів тому

      @@Liquid_silver88 true but eventually, like every hate train, kpop stans will move on and find a different group to criticize

  • @Jules-xm1ky
    @Jules-xm1ky 17 днів тому

    5:39 Ladies Code instrumental giving me war flashbacks

  • @MichaelSidneyTimpson
    @MichaelSidneyTimpson 20 днів тому

    it always bugs me when people say Makk-Nay when in Korean it is pronounced Mang-Nay.

  • @ItsTisWorld
    @ItsTisWorld 20 днів тому

    Imma be honest I was never into Loona and just found out a couple of hours ago that they weren't a group anymore. I was watching Artms which I found by complete accident and then found out they used to be part of Loona and wanted to know what happened to Loona. This video is so informative so thank you so much for making it cause if not I was either gone to turn into an internet detective or remain ignorant (I'm too curious to stay clueless). This has helped me understand so much and I will be patiently waiting for the other parts while going to start a little investigation of my own <3

  • @snoopygogo
    @snoopygogo 21 день тому

    i think kpop fans always need something to hate on, it's rarely criticism because surprise, telling someone to die because you don't like someone's singing is not criticism. i am confused because everyone always say idols lose control over themselves when they join the industry but suddenly, they're to blame for the music, the concepts, the copying? people attack the idols as if they're responsible for that, it doesn't make sense. it's the company, always them..

  • @kabudelz
    @kabudelz 21 день тому

    And then we had 2ne1 singing "I AM THE BEST"

  • @every__yan
    @every__yan 22 дні тому

    WHEN IS PART 2

  • @lotuskeksic
    @lotuskeksic 23 дні тому

    i adore this video and i can’t wait for the 2nd part 🤘🤘🤘

  • @lotuskeksic
    @lotuskeksic 23 дні тому

    3:10:36 yves changed the lyrics just for you queen 😘✌️(im talking about the time she sang girls talk on a live and changed “it’s all about you boy” to “it’s all about you girl”)

  • @GelelaBashaw
    @GelelaBashaw 24 дні тому

    Definitely fearless in not having talent

  • @brennarojek5803
    @brennarojek5803 24 дні тому

    I got into K-pop only more recently and so I had not heard much about LOONA. Thank you so much for your hard work and care in putting this all together, this was genuinely so well done! I am really looking forward to the next parts and also to binging the rest of your videos:)

  • @LayeredGamer
    @LayeredGamer 24 дні тому

    Ok, but Cheryl is actually a good dancer 😭

  • @arrozfrenetico6615
    @arrozfrenetico6615 24 дні тому

    All of this points made, are really stupid. If these point were to be taken seriously then all other K-pop group except bts should also be harassed. They all have the same issues, it’s suspicious that only lesserafim is being singled out for this. Also, lesserafim concept is lead by source music. It’s not HYBE. You look silly making everything about hybe.

  • @AphroditePisces96
    @AphroditePisces96 25 днів тому

    The ending of this video didn’t age that well considering Coachella….🥶

  • @Daraa100
    @Daraa100 27 днів тому

    i really had to step back from the yunjin 'hate train' when i looked at jyp and other hybe artists. both have had a million and one collabs with Coca-cola who actively funds isntreal and no one bats an eye now recently new jeans collab in How Sweet.... crickets if we want to call for change we need to leave behind hate because attacking yunjin (+somi) for something that almost all major idol groups have done seems very disingenuous and looks like we want to drag down an idol for no reason. The same can be said for the vocals we saw with Sakura's 'response' that she felt like the group was being unfairly attacked for mistakes which is true but the hate really dumbs down valid criticism, making it look like that when really we as an audience SHOULD be trying to uphold a certain standard in talent to at least try to force companies to debut idols 1. of age and 2. with the skills that they are presented of having.

    • @juliasjingles
      @juliasjingles 27 днів тому

      i think the reason people are reacting differently id because the cola collabs were sort of enforced onto those groups since it was a decision made by their companies, yunjin on the other hand bought starbucks on her own accord. (but as an arab muslim who very much supports palestine, i dont think her buying starbucks = supporting israel, i think she very well couldve just been ignorant and not known the importance of the boycott, the HUGE amount if hate is unnecessary)

  • @fervherrera218
    @fervherrera218 28 днів тому

    The criticism about a music group that is not able to hold itself on a simple encore without dancing and frankly an easy song IS VALID they should be able to accept the criticism and improve yes they will not become Wendy but at least they would be able to become competent singers What baffles me and annoys me is that woman are always held to this extreme standard of perfection that man are not, the hate for women is always so vile and evil when there’s boy groups out there that are worst that lsf and momo together and they don’t get half of the hate women get like be serious don’t be an hypocrite, also is not THAT serious not anyone can be Beyoncé and that’s fine, although I will say that lsf actually needs to improve practice and learn with proper singing teachers they can only get better. I guess that my take is HATE ON MID MEN NOT ON HARD WORKING WOMEN 🥰🥰

  • @amelienotpoulain
    @amelienotpoulain 29 днів тому

    the woomana and blurred girls wall girl that's iconic slay

  • @amelienotpoulain
    @amelienotpoulain 29 днів тому

    thank you so much for this iconic video ily, WE NEED PART TWO!

  • @amelienotpoulain
    @amelienotpoulain 29 днів тому

    the best group in the world idc

  • @djojo6857
    @djojo6857 29 днів тому

    criticism: they don't have stable vocals and they need to work on it hate : yunjin has big ribcage hahah plastic surgery monsters Zionists, chaewon is a drug addict eunchae is a brat i think we all know the difference and why antifans act like this

  • @CaseyKhin
    @CaseyKhin Місяць тому

    i've never sat down this still for 4 hours straight

  • @guitarchris76
    @guitarchris76 Місяць тому

    I’m drawing a blank on what the first MV used in this is. It’s the one with the red room. I know I’ve seen it and have looked at everything that I thought it would be. Help!!!!!!!!

  • @minatozakiz
    @minatozakiz Місяць тому

    i feel bad for them a few months ago i thought this hate train would last a week max

    • @minatozakiz
      @minatozakiz Місяць тому

      ok i agreed with most of this video until the jennie part, jennie's hate train was much worse but i think maybe you're confused since she has a massive fanbase to defend her and lsrfm dont

    • @minatozakiz
      @minatozakiz Місяць тому

      and also i think bgs get less hate because ofc misogyny but also bgs just have their fandom as their main support, whilst ggs have the entire kpop community tuned in

    • @nnnn-sc2im
      @nnnn-sc2im 17 днів тому

      yeah the whole mhj situation and coachella fueled the hate train more

    • @minatozakiz
      @minatozakiz 17 днів тому

      @@nnnn-sc2im i really hope for the best for them i’m glad that source music has taken legal action against malicious comments

  • @Honeyeojin
    @Honeyeojin Місяць тому

    i need part 2 lolll

  • @ifu138
    @ifu138 Місяць тому

    people hated her before she even did anything "problematic" lmao, you just know they were all creaming their pants when she finally did something the morality police could freak out over... it's funny how supposedly "woke" people hate gender non-confirming women and lesbians to the point they'll call her "lesbian" while insulting her even though she's never identified as one, and then they'll call her the homophobic one for some reason lol

  • @WeirdLittleFlower
    @WeirdLittleFlower Місяць тому

    I’m watching this after seeing Amber in Jessica's music video! I always asked myself why people hated her so much!

  • @yvesntual12
    @yvesntual12 Місяць тому

    people only hate her because she's butch

  • @ckim3926
    @ckim3926 Місяць тому

    The XG strategy was very smart. They sing in English to reach the majority of the world listeners and do away with singing multiple languages eliminating extra stress. Then they get produced/perform in South Korea for the exposure since they can't get that doing it in Japan. It helps that their music/mvs are very well produced. If their music was just like the rest of K-pop I would have just skipped it after watching it for a few seconds. That's what I call well thought out strategy.